Hopefully this'll still play. Ironically, yet again, I'm being allied to Nigel Lawson... it's slightly embarrassing!
http://www.presstv.com/Programs/player/?id=69731
"Enemies of Progress" has been set up to argue for development without prefixes. One of the most important tasks today, is to undermine the fear-generating perception that human agency, modernity, growth, materialism, want, development, experimentation, technology, infrastructure, political debate and critical engagement - in a word, progress, is a problem.